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. a project in the uk where we have good data, 100 million pounds, uk project, 30% more cost overruns than 5 million project. small is beautiful and more efficient than you think. so having the government, centralized one bureaucrat make a mistake, okay, massive consequences. it looks okay until they make a mistake. it's a lot bigger. plus, another thing. there's no skin in the game on a part of bureaucrats. bureaucrat makes a decision. that's the central thing. federalize the system and i was asked how to make the financial industry better. force people to have skin in the game. nrds, have people harmed by the mistakes. >> sure. >> you are not harmed as a bureaucrat, not harmed by the bureaucrat. a mayor, you're shamed. that's maybe enough, just a little bit that you need to force someone to make a good decision. you see? skin in the game and bankers don't have skin in the game. so one of the necessary rules is that those who make a mistake should be exposed to harm and not harm others, you know. that would -- we have known since -- once civilization started based on reciprocity of mistakes
in australia and france and the uk and happens in japan, but for some reason i don't see them grieving over 20 children that have been slain in their schools. that does come down to a question of our gun problem and gun culture and the way we cope with it. i know the families in this town when they are past their grieving and they never will be, but one of the things people want to do here in newtown united is to give them a platform and a voice and let's hear what they have to say. >> two things you mentioned. newtown united and the goals for the organization. you mentioned having knew or met nancy lanza. can you give impressions of her from meeting her? >> it is a small town and a bunch of us play tuesday night ultimate frisbee in one of the local playing fields. we want to have a beer and we go to this place called my place. you have seen it on the news. nancy was i don't want to say a regular, but she was there and i chatted with her. a seemingly pleasant person and i'm sure she was. that's it. that's how small towns work, right? when i wait and saw i knew a number of people who lost a lov
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